but for real progress to occur, these types of substances need to be rescheduled, says dr. nutt. he was famously
fired from his position with the u.k. government a little more than a decade ago after starting substances like alcohol and tobacco were far more harmful, both to the individual user and society at large, than lsd, ecstasy or cannabis.
“if the schedules don’t change, they’re not going to be medicines, that’s a fact,” he says, adding that the only thing that can motivate that change is medical data.
these days, dr. nutt is still teaching and conducting research at imperial college and is involved in a number of trials with psychedelic medicines, including psilocybin for the treatment of obsessive-compulsive disorder, anorexia, and chronic pain.
“before i was sacked no scientists in britain would actually tell the truth about drugs, they didn’t ever want to confront the fact that the biggest killer in britain is alcohol. and after i was sacked everyone said, ‘of course it is. it’s obvious. so why do we care about these psychedelics that aren’t very harmful at all?’ so the public completely swung around to us. the fact that
oregon is now legalizing mushrooms, against federal law, against the un convention, tells us we won the argument in the public. but we’ve still got to win it with the politicians.”
having turned 70 years old last month, dr. nutt says “he’s hanging on to see sanity eventually prevail over the drug policy.”
he adds that, at the moment, psychedelic research is a good field to be in, which is a big change from a decade ago.
“it is buzzing at present and i think that even if only half of the hope comes to fruition is still going to be a hell of an event,” he says. “i hope i live long enough to see it all sorted.”